Kate Bishop is an MCU character that I feel should’ve had more appearances at this point since her debut in the Hawkeye series!

She has been so underused, that it almost upsets me that we haven’t gotten to see more of her! Nor do we have any idea what plans Marvel Studios has in mind for her (other than a rumoured in-development project that was meant to focus on the Young Avengers, which included Ms. Marvel in the mix)

It really is a shame, especially when you have a talented actress like Hailee Steinfeld playing the character. Who has a huge fan following, and is someone that many people know is capable of taking the lead in order to tell a compelling story!

It’s even a missed opportunity not to include in the current storyline of Daredevil: Born Again, given her connection to Fisk and how her mom working for him could’ve helped benefit Matt in the army he’s building. But who knows, maybe she could still make an appearance and they were really good at keeping it secretive.

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taviusparadise2025-10-20 04:12

she will return. Check out the marvels post credit scene.

Hailee voices a character in the upcoming animated spider verse also

crumbsalt2025-10-20 04:22

She's been Spider Gwen since the first movie

eBICgamer20102025-10-20 04:36

What if we do a Ralph Bohner and let her voice YFNSM Gwen?

taviusparadise2025-10-20 04:37

indeed. shes busy

Possible_Hokie_CO262025-10-20 05:20

I say this as a fan of Hailee… she’s very much not busy. Her biggest thing is she doesn’t want to work during Josh’s season. If marvel was going to utilize her they had their chance :/

taviusparadise2025-10-20 05:28

Marvel cameos or NFL. tough decisions. would not be a surprise if she pops up in doomsday or another tv show or project

CaptHayfever2025-10-20 08:09

Football teams only play once a week; is she going to their practices too?

Practical-Debate15982025-10-20 05:10

Ya but who knows when. Also there's lots of unresolved cameos lol

taviusparadise2025-10-20 05:28

the kamala ironheart hawkeye trio worked well in zombies. who knows maybe all 3 are in doomsday.

BambooSound2025-10-20 13:15

They filmed that post-credits scene before their whole rethink so I wouldn't put much stock in it.

She's recently said ["As for Marvel, I'm always waiting by the phone"](https://variety.com/2025/film/awards/hailee-steinfeld-sinners-viral-scene-mcu-spiderverse-1236534420/) so it sounds to be she isn't even in conversation about future projects, let alone confirmed for them.

She was recently in Marvel Zombies though so it's not like Marvel want us to forget about her. That voice work was recorded like 5 years ago though.

johnnyLochs2025-10-20 04:12

Not her or Rener’s fault. Disney low balled him, she was searing hot. Hopefully she has leverage to get that character back on screen.

phantom_avenger2025-10-20 04:19

It at least comforts me that she’s at least willing to come back, and is just waiting for that phone call like she confirmed a month or two ago

SeekerVash2025-10-20 15:19

She isn't "searing hot". Sinners made 367m at the box office, less than Thunderbolts, and did very poorly internationally (only 88m)

She's a great actress, but let's not blow things out of proportion.

Argular2025-10-20 04:13

All of the “Young Avengers” characters remain underutilized. I would hope they have a more prominent appearance in one of the upcoming Avengers movies.

ecw3242025-10-20 04:18

I kinda hope they detour away from a “young” team. The original actors have all aged out.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 04:33

They'll just use the name Champions, which is the team Kamala and Riri are on in comics, since Kate, Cassie, Billy, America and Tommy are all Young Avengers, their predecessors.

BambooSound2025-10-20 13:08

'Champions' as a sub-franchise feels like it would be dead on arrival.

They should just call make 'Avengers' movies that focus on a new ensemble of like ~six characters that are a mix of new and old.

They introduced too many characters to do them all justice.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 13:33

Maybe, but given that they've made more references to the team in more recent productions/included yet more members in still coming projects, it seems unlikely they're just gonna abandon plans. They chose to reference them in Daredevil Born Again, and again they chose to put Tommy in Vision Quest. Between those, and Feige's own words about trying to find where the team will show up as individuals and as a team in the future, they're still slated for something.

Possible_Hokie_CO262025-10-20 05:17

lol what? Almost everyone except Hailee, Kathryn, and Dominique are still in their early - mid 20s.

You do know the Young Avengers weren’t all teens in the comics right? They were all late teens (17-19) to early 20s

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 05:34

I agree with your first point but the second is not so true. In the first volume they're 14 (Cassie) to 17 (Kate and Eli). In Vol 2 Kate turns 21 as a plot point, and so the rest of the team is also about the same age, 20/21. As of today in comics, everyone is above 21 and has been since Vol 2, with the exception of Cassie who is still 15, since she was dead during the time skip.

OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-20 22:51

What in the irrelevant tangent did you intend to argue with this comment?

ecw3242025-10-20 13:08

But think about this logically, it would be a few more years before filming started and another year after that before the film would be released, so that’s at least 3 years before we would see it.

finally_not_lurking2025-10-21 05:24

Hailee is the same age Chris Hemsworth was when Thor came out. Was he Young Thor?

huggybeark2025-10-20 14:47

Most of the actors are not significantly older than their characters, people up to 30 can convincingly play high schoolers and older if casted and executed well, and many of the characters wouldn't even be that young in the MCU (Kate Bishop is 22 in Hawkeye, so it's not even going back to high school).

Actors can *gasp* play different ages than their own.

ecw3242025-10-20 15:31

So by the time a “young” film would be released, she’d be almost 30. Hawkeye was 4 years ago, plus at least 2 years before it’d be released, so that’s 28.

huggybeark2025-10-21 00:17

Time in the MCU doesn't match cleanly to time in the real world. Hawkeye was set in 2024 despite being released in 2021.

ecw3242025-10-21 02:41

Maybe it’s just me but I have a hard time seeing the “young” actors as young people in the MCU after I’ve seen them play many adult roles outside of it.

OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-20 22:50

Wdym? They’re all still young. Literally all of them are young.

yuzumelodious2025-10-20 05:00

Agreed. Probably the worst offenders who suffered from this are Eli Bradley & Cassie Lang. The latter due to Quatumania's issues in a nutshell and the former had only popped up in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. And with little material to speak of compared to his grandfather.

SecretWarsIsComing2025-10-20 09:25

They totally crapped the bed by not showing young Eli lifting weights in the background, while Isaiah was being introduced to Falcon — maybe in the end scenes too when Isaiah gets his “suit” back.

thainfamouzjay2025-10-20 05:22

They are waiting on Tommy in vision quest then the young avengers will be the main force in secret wars

CaptHayfever2025-10-20 07:50

> They are waiting on Tommy in vision quest

Yes.

> the young avengers will be the main force in secret wars

No. The Champions/Young Avengers project will be on Disney+.

thainfamouzjay2025-10-20 14:15

They leaked a bunch of rendering already that show the Kamala ran team being the ones to wake everyone up in secret wars. They will be part of the main plot

Dave_B0012025-10-20 04:15

Same with Shang Chi.

phantom_avenger2025-10-20 04:17

Definitely, but at least he’s making a comeback in Doomsday!

However big his role is remains to be seen, and we have no idea when we’ll ever see Kate again

Armandonerd2025-10-20 05:25

Champions: A Young Avengers Story

HolyMolyOllyPolly2025-10-20 04:26

And Moon Knight. Current MCU feels like it's moving at a snail's pace.

Dave_B0012025-10-20 04:32

After Marvel zombies A Blade, Bishop, Moon knight, Shang Chi team up would be cool fighting Vampires all over Asia and Africa.

crookedparadigm2025-10-20 06:47

People forget that Infinity Saga took over a decade to finish and didn't have to deal with COVID or strikes.

UnnecessaryFeIIa2025-10-20 07:19

Taking over a decade was a good thing. We’ll barely be more than half of that with double the amount of meaningless projects

yuvi30002025-10-20 10:59

The problem isn't how long it took. The Infinity Saga all felt purposeful and directed. There might have been some stuff that was meant to be a side story or a standalone story, but all the main characters and secondary characters connected and teamed up to make things feel connected.

What OP and many others are frustrated with is that all these characters kept getting introduced and then we didn't see many them again in a proper project. Some were lucky to be in animated shows. Very few actually got a minor role or supporting role in a different project. But too many of the projects in the Multiverse saga felt like they did not connect well enough with others compared to the Infinity Saga and it's really frustrating that they did this because pretty much all the characters and actors were amazing and then we just didn't see them again for years. Actors will move on and we won't get more stories with them which really sucks.

PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-20 07:43

Yet we are getting an avengers movie next year lol

Anteater_Able2025-10-21 07:06

It’s largely because the last few phases were perceived as failures both financially and critically so now they’re scrambling to right the ship with RDJ and Avengers.

As much as I'd watch the hell out of a show like this: > A Blade, Bishop, Moon knight, Shang Chi team up would be cool fighting Vampires all over Asia and Africa.

Even a concept that exciting would probably be dismissed now as just more content overload, like Secret Invasion or She-Hulk. Even Daredevil: Born Again recently struggled with low ratings.

SlatorFrog2025-10-22 01:14

They really are trying to go back to that. If you look at the movie slate next year its Spider-man and Avengers which is the big money makers or at least have been traditionally.

I'm still all for it though, I still love Marvel Movies and Shows! But It does seem like a huge contraction after the introduction of TV series but I think we all knew that had to happen. As much as I loved the content it seemed to stretch things thin and the lack of connective tissue has been a much bigger issue after Endgame.

Also there is only so much money to go around. The TV shows had massive budgets. Which takes the place of a big movie. It sucks but that's just the nature of the beast.

BambooSound2025-10-20 13:03

I found Moon Knight hard to care about. They skipped what would have been all the best scenes and narrative justification for his bad accent didn't make it any less grating.

Then again, I wasn't a fan before the series either.

OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-20 22:49

I’m eternally baffled how moon knight and Shang chi always get mentioned before the eternals. I mean they were good projects no doubt, but Eternals was so much weightier and significant and daring. Should have been much more of a focus after end game, and doesn’t get talked about nearly enough

mrbaryonyx2025-10-21 00:34

Execs forgot that what made Infinity Saga work was "developing the characters in sequels and crossovers, so that when the big finale comes it feels like they all have meaningful arcs to wrap up".

Instead they just pointed at Endgame and said "we want that again" and Kevin said, "well it'll take like thirty movies or shows to get to that" and they said "fine, greenlight it all now, have it all come out over like three years".

And that's why the entire cast of Doomsday is "characters who have been in only one movie or show in the last four years, and also the Fox X-Men"

ILL_WILL_002025-10-21 06:23

No kidding. I couldn't be less excited. I know what the general storyline is for the MCU cause I see the movies but as far as I've seen there's been basically 0 overlap. I don't fucking care to see Mister Fantastic and Thor team up. Or any of that shit, cause they haven't even had a scene that indicates they're aware of eachother

I don't see how they plan to make Doomsday anything special. It would have to be 6-7 hours long to tell any kind of cohesive story

brypye132025-10-20 04:34

This right here

Prudent-Sherbet-49352025-10-20 05:36

for real, they really dropped the ball on some of these characters, it’s frustrating

CalligrapherKooky2432025-10-20 06:46

totally, both characters have so much potential thats just being ignored

LaserCondiment2025-10-20 21:21

r/Marvelboutism

rubyschnees2025-10-20 04:16

she's my favorite character in the mcu, and i do think she'll be back soon, but kate should 100% be a huge part of the next phase and the future of the mcu overall

hailee steinfeld is one of the biggest stars in hollywood right now, they'd be stupid not to utilize her

crumbsalt2025-10-20 04:23

When they bring her back I really really really wanna see two interactions

1. Her and Yelena again

2. Her and Kamalaaa

phantom_avenger2025-10-20 04:34

With Jessica Jones back, I really hope we’ll get to see a pairing between her and Kate Bishop!

It would be awesome if she was her second mentor after Clint, where she mentors her on developing masterful detective skills.

Plus I think the chemistry between Hailee Steinfeld and Krysten Ritter would be fire 🔥

vincentdmartin2025-10-20 04:44

Better yet, brunch scene with all 3. Yelena is just there to steal something (something fun, not necessarily villainous) and tricks Kamala into helping her while Kate desperately tries to talk her out of it.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 04:39

Given the way the made it clear the X-Men would be young, I'm wondering if they won't use Kate and her team as a foil to the X-Men, since the Avengers will be far older than them. Champions also have Kamala, a prominant mutant, plus Billy and Tommy if they make them mutants.

BambooSound2025-10-20 13:10

She'd be a much better new leader of the Avengers than Sam.

And they could really double down on her friendly rivalry with Yelena as the leader of the Thunderbolts.

LordHelixArisen2025-10-20 14:09

I'm not sure Yelena is the leader of the Thunderbolts - I'd say that comes to Bucky even though he doesn't want it.

BambooSound2025-10-20 15:16

Who's in charge isn't that important, I mostly just mean the kind of quasi-central character that Yelena definitely was in Thunferbolts.

KingOvDownvotes2025-10-20 04:18

I could say that about a lot of MCU characters

Minute-Necessary23932025-10-20 04:22

Same. I feel that way too.

Least_Rain80272025-10-20 04:23

i hope the final Visionquest post credits scene is Kate telling Billy and Tommy she was sent to find them and before they can reply their affected with whatever happens at the beginning of Doomsday

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 04:40

I have a feeling it'll be Billy finding Tommy, since Kate is with Kamala in California grabbing Cassie, unless that's just fully done off screen.

Least_Rain80272025-10-20 05:01

i think a main plot of the show is Billy and Agatha finding Tommy and on the way finding Vision

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 05:02

Given neither of them are in the cast list that was revealed and the show seems to be about father's and sons, I don't expect much of them, likely just a cameo.

Least_Rain80272025-10-20 05:05

i mean Tommy has been confirmed as a main character. it makes no sense to not see Billy and Agatha not doing what they said they were at the end of their show

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 05:07

Tommy is yes, but the show is revolving around Vision himself it seems. I would love to see Billy and Agatha show up but I'm not gonna hype myself up for them when they may simply be a cameo and nothing more. Same way I was hopeful we'd see some of the others in Ironheart but wound up not.

Least_Rain80272025-10-20 05:12

and Agatha All Along was about Agatha but it also focused on Billy.

just watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgTr0nJdU-4

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 05:41

I'm just saying to keep expectations in check. It would be cool, but nothing would be worse than spinning yourself up for plenty of Billy and Agatha only for both to not be in it.

Practical-Debate15982025-10-20 05:10

Yea

boinkmagoink2025-10-20 04:38

In what?

DomzSageon2025-10-20 04:49

Had a total crush on her reading the matt fraction hawkeye run, and considering hailey steinfeld is one of my favorite actresses, i cant get enough of her.

We need more keyt beeshop

Ryansmelly2025-10-20 04:51

100%

lanceturley2025-10-20 04:52

The fact that we don't have a Kate and Yelena team-up movie or series is a crime against the fandom.

Practical-Debate15982025-10-20 05:11

Yea. Missed opportunity for sure

theatrekid03092025-10-20 05:02

I love Kate Bishop. I hate how underutilized everyone in the MCU is now. Too many stories like Star Wars

Obvious-End-79482025-10-20 05:04

Marvel really seems to have changed their approach, and not for the better.

Lately they decide to add a new character to the MCU, so they'll spend a few years getting setting up either a Disney+ show or a film and then.....wait. They just sit on them. Waiting to see the audience response before greenlighting more stuff with them that will also be years and years away.

I wish they'd just commit to telling the stories they want to tell and have the confidence to commit to the characters. Instead they added so many random ones they're simultaneously drowning in them and yet have nothing for them to do for half a decade at a time.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 05:08

Kate, Kamala, and Cassie is the trio I'm living for.

Practical-Debate15982025-10-20 05:12

Hopefully doomsday when Scott (probably) dies

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 05:15

This is about what I expect/hope. Scott getting an absolutely heart breaking death scene with one last scene/reaction from Cassie as her new friends become the only thing holding her together.

Practical-Debate15982025-10-20 05:09

Agreed. I'm praying for a born again appearance, doomsday, and/or secret wars.

It would make sense which is why it's frustrating that they don't use her

Jagermonsta2025-10-20 05:13

Cap 4 should of had a new avengers team with her, Shang chi, she hulk and moon knight.

SecretWarsIsComing2025-10-20 09:40

Would’ve def made the TBolts trailer bit a whole lot more enticing of a potential face-off/team-up scenario.

Perhaps that’s what ends up happening as the FF lands, with MANY factions converging on the landing destination — just like the bigger NYC “show-ups” in comics.

Would also be a nice “forward in time” show-up from space, compared to when the Black Order arrive — and are faced with Banner, Wong, Strange, Cape, Iron Man and Spidey.

SickFromNutmeg2025-10-20 05:26

Marvel zombies proves that the young avengers have great chemistry im so sad its gonna be years before we see anything close to that

hvc101fc2025-10-20 06:54

Definitely a post endgame character i really wanted to see more off.

King_Joeyw002025-10-20 06:59

Dying for more of her. She’s easily my favorite along with Yelena. And when they’re together it’s only better.

Afwife19922025-10-20 07:21

They were really successful, with critics and viewers, with some of their earliest new characters—especially Shang Chi, Kate, Agatha, Yelena—but except for the latter two they’ve not done anything. Kate had a cameo which at least puts her up on Shang for now. To me this has been a bigger weakness than building towards a big bad.

DO0M882025-10-20 07:30

The MCU would benefit greatly if they had an animated anthology series where in each episode we can catch up with characters like Kate, Shang-chi, Namor, etc. It'll keep fans interested in these characters while maintaining some semblance of momentum.

TheCakeWarrior122025-10-20 07:54

Half of the phase 4 characters fit this description. Kate, Shang-Chi, BLADE (still doesn’t have an onscreen live action appearance), the entire roster of the Eternals, Spider-Man (not MCU’s fault necessarily), Ms. Marvel, Namor, etc.

BambooSound2025-10-20 13:18

If I were Disney, I'd try to swap the film and TV rights for Spider-Man for the gaming rights to Marvel as a whole.

mrbaryonyx2025-10-21 00:39

Disney wanted to speedrun Endgame so they just greenlit a ton of new characters without developing any of them.

CaptHayfever2025-10-20 08:12

This entire post & comment section is giving me ridiculous deja vu. I swear we have this exact same conversation in here every single day. The OPs are all different, which is understandable, but the comments feature a hell of a lot of the same people repeating the same complaints from 3 years ago.

Eric_T_Meraki2025-10-20 08:32

This is why no one will care when they have the next Avengers assemble moment lol. It's going to be more like:

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BambooSound2025-10-20 13:20

The next 'Avengers Assemble' moment will be in a fight with the X-Men and people won't know how to feel.

Mr_Jensen2025-10-20 08:55

Kate and Shang-Chi not having more appearances has definitely been one of the dumbest moves so far Post-Endgame. The only new character that’s been done justice has been Ylena, and by extension, Red Guardian. Not having an Avengers or some kind of team-up movie once or twice a phase has been very dumb. I hope they remedy that after Secret Wars.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 09:18

I assume it's be Kate is intended to be a core part of the YA/Champions but they slow rolled the team too much.

BambooSound2025-10-20 13:24

Personally, I think YA/Champions was always a bad idea and they were wise (but still too late) to back out of it.

They should have just had a standard Avengers movie instead of Quantumania (by a better director) that solidified the characters introduced so far.

And Eternals should have been about Thanos' backstory. Still not sure why they didn't do that.

Spicy_Weissy2025-10-20 09:01

Agreed

El_Quetzal2025-10-20 09:46

someone said this in another post - "They may have cast Hailee Steinfeld at the height of her popularity, and they did nothing with her 🤷‍♂️"

AsherthonX2025-10-20 13:08

A full on series, an after credit scene and several what if episodes.

She got more screen time than Rodey.

Supreme_Moharn2025-10-20 15:11

To be honest... I'd rather not see more of her. I thought she was an annoying character. A twenty five year old constanly acting like a bratty 16 year old. Messing stuff up by constantly being contrary.

I have nothing against Hailee Steinfeld, she is good in some other things I've seen. But not this.

N8CCRG2025-10-20 15:13

Every character should have had more appearances. This idea that it's okay to neglect some characters because projects weren't as well received needs to be buried. The Incredible Hulk was poorly received, and Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger were only given lukewarm reception. But Fortunately, they kept working at them until we grew to love them. For some (like Thor) they didn't even hit upon actual success until much later (Ragnarok).

The change they made in this saga where each character only gets one or two appearances and that's it is absolutely insane. And it's wild that so much of the fandom has embraced the idea of "well, if they aren't a homerun on the first try, then throw them away."

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 15:55

This is the mindset I think not just the MCU needs but Marvel as a whole. Their comics have been struggling in part because anything that doesn't sell like crazy off rip gets killed at 5 issues, then they wonder why nobody wants to buy anything. It's the Netflix problem all over again, why buy a comic when they know it'll get canned before anything cool can happen?

I'm really hoping that Kate and the other YA/Champions are given a real shot of being shown regularly in the future and becoming more of a proper team that people can grow attached to in time. Young Avengers is consistently considered one of the biggest wasted teams in Marvel in comics, so it'd be a great chance to really, finally build their own proper answer to DC's Teen/Titans.

Illustrious_Poem_8852025-10-20 15:34

i loved her in the hawkeye series. I don't get how they could already assign Yelena as the "new black widow" but not recruit Kate bishop when she's literally the "new hawkeye". Those two characters are supposed to go hand-in-hand. Besides, having Yelena's sort-of dark humor and Kate's goofy funny personality would've made scenes so much fun, as we already saw in the series. I feel like marvel keeps introducing all these new characters and then don't know what to do w them.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-20 15:58

It's probably because Kate is in the end, a character heavily associated with the Young Avengers. It's her first ever team, it's the team she leads, her best friend/s are on it, and without her it loses it's most successful/famous member. They likely didn't plan for Kate to be so well regarded with Yelena and so now it's them trying to find a balance between more of that without having her abandon the characters she's most associated with and has the most history with.

KDF0212025-10-20 15:39

Marvel has fumbled the ball with Hailee so badly. She should be there with Flo as one of the cornerstones of the MCU going forward. They don’t need Jeremy to continue with Kate’s story. I love Clint and they are great together but they have left Kate and Hailee on the side line for way too long. They need to get her back into projects.

NEURALINK_ME_ITCHING2025-10-20 16:37

I'm totally a fan of how she's almost Avengers tier when she starts her story arc, it makes me want to see the growth and development of her character towards battling someone truly challenging, like Doom, and scrapping it out alongside Khamala.

On the other hand Echo is actually good, but it's a bit sad she'll end up driftwood in the shipwreck course correction Marvel needs to do to in order to regain it's majority fanbase.

TheBrazilianKD2025-10-20 21:38

She is clearly one of the heroes that should have been prominent, like a "Top 5-10" Avenger

The problem is there hasn't been a single movie to consolidate this concept

The MCU started in 2008 and after the 2012 Avengers movie, most of the 6 billion people on Earth knew the pecking order. RDJ/Chris Evans were the leaders. Then Thor in the middle. Black Widow/Hawkeye/Hulk as supports. They rode this rough structure with additions to supporting roles all the way through to 2019, understanding that the Ant Man and the Strange types were big but in service of the structure established in 2012.

It's now 2025, over 6yrs removed from Endgame. They smartly removed RDJ/Chris Evans from the story because we need a fresh structure however WHERE IS THE 2012 AVENGERS MOMENT? Can we crystallize who and what matters? Maybe create a new team with guys like Benedict Cumberbatch and Paul Rudd who are more than qualified to serve in the lead with people like Hailee Steinfeld who can serve support in this generation and lead the next?

Tkdoom2025-10-20 22:04

Kate Beeeshop

OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-20 22:47

Same with the Eternals!

newmen13132025-10-20 23:00

I suspect Marvel will drop almost all the threads from the last few years to make room for all the X-men characters they got back.

I am very sorry for this, there were lots of good things about the lastt few years i would love to see again.

She-Hulk and all the characters from The Marvel's to name the ones I will miss.

Edit: the typos make me angry.

Fantastic_Orange_8172025-10-20 23:27

Better than Kamala for sure.

Introverted_Extrovrt2025-10-20 23:37

Simu Liu would like a word

DavidEDavid222025-10-21 00:26

Cause relationally she was never that popular none of these current phase characters are popular enough to sub-stain a franchise, even an actress as popular as Florence Pugh couldn’t make thunderbolts a hit. People on this sub seems to underestimate how underwhelming these characters are for a lot of people. Best bet is to move passes this era and start just going full in on the mutant saga. Even fantastic four doesn’t have the pull to keep the mcu going forward but the mutants are still the best way forward

Prize-Individual94302025-10-21 03:14

What other project would you have put her in?

ddanuu2025-10-21 04:24

Yeah but they thought a Echo show was needed

Gasparde2025-10-21 05:25

You see, Disney, after internal test screenings, focus group tests, all of that good market analysis stuff, and after seeing Kate's scenes with Yelena... aparently didn't believe in the character of Kate Bishop enough to consider bringing her back within the next *twenty* planned projects.

Same with Shang Chi. The people at Disney made and watched that movie. And then decided that people will probably not care enough about the guy and that they don't need to put him into any of the upcoming *twenty* projects either.

But you know where they saw potential? Echo. That was a spinoff that needed some fast tracking right there. Anything from Moon Knight? Nah, don't bother, but you know who really needed more development? Well, certainly not Monica before sending her off into her starring role in the Marvels where she got *fuck all* to do, no, what we needed were a couple episodes on Agatha. I'm sincerely amazed we didn't get a spinoff on the warrior lady from Quantumania announced, produced and ready to ship before Quantumania even came out.

And I'm not even saying that stuff like Agatha or Echo was good or bad, I don't really care. The point is that someone at Disney decided that *these* were the priorities. I'm amazed someone was mentally present enough to do something with Yelena again - and it only took them 4 years.

naus2262025-10-21 20:42

Mrs Allen will be back soon enough, I'm sure. Her hitting it with Sinners has to have the brass at Marvel and Disney champing at the bit to ride that wave.

Stock-Mistake-18642025-10-21 22:24

patience young one, patience.

Andrew_Manangka2025-10-23 13:53

Totally agree with you. I guess MCU needs to have her making more appearances. In fact, I love seeing Hailee Steinfeld nailing it as the Hawkeye girl Kate Bishop.